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modrobert
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|   #16170 posted 2007-01-02 @ 14:15 GMT
Say no more...
Thanks luna_s for the heads-up.
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Millican
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|  #16171 posted 2007-01-02 @ 15:13 GMT
What is the red arrow pointing at? I'm asking because I pre-ordered the M3. I havn't got it yet of course. Will Eurasia be carrying either item?
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boxcutter
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| #16176 posted 2007-01-02 @ 17:34 GMT
it's just a crystal,
but they are both the same.
the one with the arrow simply has a larger part fitted - look bellow it on the other image to see the smaller one.
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boxcutter
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|  #16177 posted 2007-01-02 @ 17:41 GMT
more interesting is the 4 pad-pairs down the left side for configuring something - they are set differently.
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modrobert
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|  #16185 posted 2007-01-03 @ 04:10 GMT
Interesting indeed, you have a keen eye for details boxcutter.
It would be like a wet dream if those bridges are the hardware configuration for the patch system/brand to use. Eg. bridge 1=M3, 2=R4, 3=supercard(one) or something. 
A boring (perhaps more accurate) guess would be that it configures the type of crystal/resonator used.
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boxcutter
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| #16186 posted 2007-01-03 @ 04:48 GMT
no, they arent crystal related, they ground inputs on the chip - you can see the tracks.
they are some type of configuration - maybe mapping or firmware.
if it's decimal then there is 5 variants, if binary then it's 16.
someone should wire a bank of dipswitches and try all combinations 
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Millican
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| #16192 posted 2007-01-03 @ 07:31 GMT
Since the boards are almost axactly alike, I take it one of these is much more expensive then the other? Which one? I havn't seen the R4 advertised anywhere.
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modrobert
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|  #16193 posted 2007-01-03 @ 08:56 GMT
Millican,
The price is roughly the same, but these cards only allow patching within each brand, eg. M3 DS Simply only works when their own game patcher/loader tool is used. The competition between brands is based on who provides the latest game patches.
Imagine the cheapest Chinese brand version of this board could be bought, bridged to support English firmware as any chosen slot-1 vendor and the games simply patched with the selected vendor tools.
EDIT: SuperCard(One) seem to use different PCB.
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boxcutter
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| #16194 posted 2007-01-03 @ 15:50 GMT
interesting, i wonder why it has a battery.
and a *rom* with the gate-array.
i wonder what the back of the m3 & R4 look like.
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Millican
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| #16195 posted 2007-01-03 @ 16:21 GMT
Thanks modrobert. I understand now. As for the auto patching, I guess no one will know how good each will be untill they are released.
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modrobert
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| #16210 posted 2007-01-04 @ 02:46 GMT
Maxconsole is catching on, but they fail to mention the bridges.
I just got it verified that the bridges DOES control language version (Chinese or English), but still not sure about vendor. My guess is you also have flash the specific vendor/language firmware after setting the bridges.
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boxcutter
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| #16212 posted 2007-01-04 @ 08:52 GMT
yes, the pic on maxconsole has differnt jumpers soldered too!
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modrobert
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|  #16239 posted 2007-01-07 @ 04:29 GMT
boxcutter,
Did you do that pic?
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boxcutter
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| #16241 posted 2007-01-07 @ 09:40 GMT
amatures!
if it had been me it would explain all 4 pads.
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modrobert
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| #16518 posted 2007-01-22 @ 09:43 GMT
from gbatemp.net...
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| R4 & M3 2nd Batch PCB Redesigned
Switching between the R4 DS and M3 Simply with a little bit of solder will no longer possible if you buy the redesigned second batch of the cards.
A member from the SCDev.org forums outlines the changes between the two batches:
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so what's the differences:
new style carrying case for cards with out chain
new microsd card reader, more reliable
new designed PCB, so no more M3 simply and R4 conversion, but it does retain the language conversion. |
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Thanks to skfields01 for the tip!
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boxcutter
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| #16521 posted 2007-01-22 @ 17:35 GMT
they still lose,
we know what pins the chip uses now, so even without the pads we can change them.
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