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 _#33743 posted 2014-06-17 @ 20:45 GMT   
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Notes for 3k3y firmware v2.10 Public Beta:

For now, while waiting for 3k3y isotools swap disc support, you can use the Cobra ODE Bypass 4.55 tools to create swap ISO file.

Burn with ImgBurn, use quality BD-R, Ritek worked fine for me. I've read some claim BD-RE will work, but not in my tests, I tried with Verbatim BD-RE (rewritable) and it failed. Also, make sure you use an original game disk which is single layer (25GB), check the Cobra Anti-ODE security bypass manual for more info.

Setting SWAPTIMEOUT over 30 seconds made the PS3 XMB freeze, that is the reason I limit it to 25 seconds. If you get freeze problem in XMB, try lowering the value, or remove the SWAPTIMEOUT setting in 3key.cfg, then it will default to 15 seconds.

The remote display will show "Load SWP disk" or "Load PS3 disk" when the time comes, you need to quickly open the cover/lid and swap to the requested disc and close the cover before SWAPTIMEOUT reaches zero, if too slow the PS3 XMB will detect the open cover switch and give error, in this case try to start over, if that also fails, power off the PS3 and restart.

If you don't own a 3k3y remote you need to pay attention when the motor stops, but this can be tricky, hopefully someone with a remote can post a video on YouTube so you get an idea how the swap is done. During game updates the BD drive can stop without actually requiring the swap disk, if so just leave the PS3 disk in there when updates are installing on the XMB screen.

When installing a PS3 game update there will be several swaps between SWP (swap) disc and PS3 (original) disc, also, after a game has an update installed on the PS3 hard drive, there will be one extra swap to insert original disc during normal gameplay.

If you manage to screw up the swapping, or if it fails by itself, turn off the PS3 super slim using power button and start over. Pay attention to drive motor sound and be careful, since it can spin with open lid theoretically due to the cover switch handling by 3k3y. If a PS3 game update was installing during a bad swap you might have to delete it in XMB, because the update file can be corrupt (signed with the wrong disk loaded).

Please provide feedback in this topic so I can fix the bugs.

Download: 3k3y firmware v2.10 beta
Zip file MD5: 4b2f24cf8b21e87fc8244fba94c955a3

EDIT: If you need help using Cobra ISO tools with 3k3y, check this post (further down in this topic).

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3k3y firmware changelog:

v2.10 Public Beta
* Cobra 4.55 ISO tools support, COBRAISO=Y setting added to 3key.cfg

v2.08 Private Beta
* OFW 4.55 swap disc support with game updates working
* No wire/soldering required for cover switch handling
* Remote display swap requests added
* SWAPTRICK=Y setting added to 3key.cfg
* SWAPTIMEOUT=xx (between 5 - 25 seconds) setting added to 3key.cfg
* Optional LANGUAGE=P0T setting added to 3key.cfg, giving P0T-NOoDLE font on the remote display in English (Thanks Sir Garbagetruck aka Lastebil for the heads up)

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 _#33744 posted 2014-06-17 @ 20:54 GMT   
just great ! i keep checking Robert, i already have 6 4k consoles ready for test the update,great work

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On 2014-06-17 @ 20:45 GMT, modrobert wrote:
This is a placeholder topic for now! Watch this space.



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 _#33746 posted 2014-06-18 @ 11:22 GMT   
really thanks boss! i will start the test right now!

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 _#33748 posted 2014-06-18 @ 13:56 GMT   
Well Boss i still in the rebuild the iso's process,but i notice ad will be a great option in iso tools.when we use the genps3iso455 we can only select 1 game at the time,so i think will be great in isotools update we can choose all the games you want,because just 1 at the time is to slow!

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 _#33749 posted 2014-06-18 @ 14:55 GMT   
Yes, that's a good idea. BTW: I noticed GenPS3iso v2.4 was not in the bypass tool pack, it's required to create ISO from the PSJB game directory (before running genps3iso455.exe).
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 _#33750 posted 2014-06-18 @ 15:11 GMT   
Robert about the time for rebuild a 10gb iso with genps3iso455? i ask you because i still cant convert any of my games,i change the hdd,i use usb 3.0 hdd and for example genps3iso455 start but in 5% dont move,the hdd light keep flashing,the one with original iso,but the destination hdd dont show any function,so i try for more than 2 hours and still cant convert any game
genps3iso455 only write like 600mb and thats all,aprox 5% and thats all,i try many games and same happen,i so desperate

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 _#33751 posted 2014-06-18 @ 15:35 GMT   
These tools worked fine for me, tested several games, must be some other problem.
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 _#33752 posted 2014-06-18 @ 15:39 GMT   
yes i know robert,i will test another hdd,because i remember when cobra fix comes out i rebuid the games fast i just a few minutes,i make more test and let you know,thanks

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On 2014-06-18 @ 15:35 GMT, modrobert wrote:
These tools worked fine for me, tested several games, must be some other problem.



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 _#33753 posted 2014-06-18 @ 15:42 GMT   
You are using the game directory (PSJB) format to create new ISO using genps3iso.exe first , right? Because I doubt the 3k3y IsoTools generated files can be converted with genps3iso455.exe, maybe, but haven't tested that.
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 _#33754 posted 2014-06-18 @ 16:02 GMT   
now i already convert 2 games at last i use my 3k3y ripper ird isos's so i will test of then right now for can see if they works,i very sure they does,i let you know in a few minutes

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On 2014-06-18 @ 15:42 GMT, modrobert wrote:
You are using the game directory (PSJB) format to create new ISO using genps3iso.exe first , right? Because I doubt the 3k3y IsoTools generated files can be converted with genps3iso455.exe, maybe, but haven't tested that.



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 _#33755 posted 2014-06-18 @ 16:47 GMT   
Well Robert,after many test we can confirm the isotools ird 1:1 iso's works good with the fix,also we already update some games and download some dlc and also works good !,really great work!,hope for the new isotools from UglyClicker can release soon

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 _#33756 posted 2014-06-18 @ 20:09 GMT   
I was asked to pass this message on, is there going to be any updates to the PATA (Phat) model of 3k3y as there was still one bad bug left in it from the days when TA still working on it, and he said he would fix up the error.

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<i***B> tell him its a bug with the remote on my PATA 3k3y. its very complicated to explain. but let me try ·
<i***B> if I plug the Remote in and boot up the PS3, nothing shows up on the remote ·
<i***B> BUT ·
<i***B> if I slowly insert the USB cable into the remote, it works ·
<i***B> sounds stupid I know, but TA could make sense out of it ·
<i***B> but he never told me what the problem was or how he wants to fix it ·
<i***B> but he could ·



Any thoughts on how or if or when this bug would be fixed for older PATA units.

Thanks.
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 _#33757 posted 2014-06-18 @ 20:15 GMT   
Hello Boss,well i have 2 fat consoles,both of then with remote and never have a ny problem with then,but i see weird thing with bad remotes,for example one customer the games freeze ramdom,we change hdd,format exfat,etc etc and nothing fix the problem,so one day we notice the remote look really low of bright,so change it and problem solved!

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On 2014-06-18 @ 20:09 GMT, garyopa wrote:
I was asked to pass this message on, is there going to be any updates to the PATA (Phat) model of 3k3y as there was still one bad bug left in it from the days when TA still working on it, and he said he would fix up the error.

Quote:

<i***B> tell him its a bug with the remote on my PATA 3k3y. its very complicated to explain. but let me try ·
<i***B> if I plug the Remote in and boot up the PS3, nothing shows up on the remote ·
<i***B> BUT ·
<i***B> if I slowly insert the USB cable into the remote, it works ·
<i***B> sounds stupid I know, but TA could make sense out of it ·
<i***B> but he never told me what the problem was or how he wants to fix it ·
<i***B> but he could ·



Any thoughts on how or if or when this bug would be fixed for older PATA units.

Thanks.



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 _#33758 posted 2014-06-18 @ 20:19 GMT   
Robert i notice something bad,hope can be fixed,i already update like 8 games,but 3 games,after the update dont work,the remote ask for the ps3 disc after swap disc and then return to the ps3 menu,and show this error " for can play this game "game name" please insert the disc" any ideas?

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 _#33759 posted 2014-06-18 @ 21:01 GMT   
Sadly i confirm about more than 20 games ( i dont want test more),after game updates,all then dont work,if i delete the game update data the game works,this is really sad

this is my full report:

1-first i use my isotools ird isos,20 iso's i test,20 iso's works,but when apply the game updates all the 20 iso's dont work

2-so as Modrobert say about use the cobra "genps3iso" so i extract the isotools ird iso's then i rebuild the iso with genps3iso,then of course i re-rebuild that iso with genps3iso455 for 4.55 fix,same thing happen, the game works,but after apply the game updates any games works,

3-i notice this,before apply the game updates,after insert the ps3 disc,then press x,the tv screen goes black,so the remote ask for the swap and then the game starts,but after the game updates,after insert the ps3 disc,when i press x,the ps3 keeps in the menu,ask for the swap disc,then ask again for the ps3 disc,and then show the error in the picture

all my iso's are build with ird file,thats why i try extract then and rebuild the iso with genps3iso,same happen dont work,i really hope this can be fixed,because we wait 5 months for this update and any game works if the user apply the updates,and without updates of course you cant play online


NOTE:here i atach 2 pictures,one of the you can see how the xmb looks after try to start a updated game


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 _#33761 posted 2014-06-19 @ 03:07 GMT   
First off, to make this clear, there are no changes in this update affecting PS3 consoles except when using 4.55 and swap disc. Unless you use the new 3key.cfg settings mentioned in the changelog for v2.10 beta.

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 _#33762 posted 2014-06-19 @ 03:38 GMT   
sorry Robert but dont understand what do you mean,do you see the pictures,?? i test 4 consoles,all of of course 4k consoles with 4.55,i try everything as i write before,and happen,is just some bug or something i dont know,but in 4 consoles 2 mine 2 from customers after the game update any game works! but if i delete the update data the games works again !
about 3key.cfg, all like you write,i mean i dont change anything in 3key.cfg,just leave dafault,so i ask, do i need change anyting in the 3key.cfg??? i try 10 seconds swap time,but nothing work,i test 3 HDD,4 4k consoles,more than 20 games so far is the same result,just after update any game,they stop working,i really apreciate any help Robert,please look the pictures,thanks

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On 2014-06-19 @ 03:07 GMT, modrobert wrote:
First off, to make this clear, there are no changes in this update affecting PS3 consoles except when using 4.55 and swap disc. Unless you use the new 3key.cfg settings mentioned in the changelog for v2.10 beta.

[ This message was edited by modrobert on 2014-06-19 @ 03:29 GMT ]



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 _#33764 posted 2014-06-19 @ 03:58 GMT   
EAGLE-1,

Regarding the game update problem; looks like you did a swap mistake, and that update file is still in XMB. Just delete the update file with XMB for that specific game and try again.

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 _#33765 posted 2014-06-19 @ 04:07 GMT   
EAGLE-1,

I noticed something in your posts, maybe this will help you.

After game update is installed, one additional swap is required when playing the game (each time).

When playing the game after game update is installed, switch discs like this:

* PS3 disc (this is already in the drive normally)
* Swap disc
* PS3 disc

I think you missed the final switch to PS3 disc in your test, because this step is not needed when playing games without update.

Just look at the remote and do the final swap to PS3 disc and the game will load!


TL;DR

When game updates are installed, swap procedure end with the original PS3 game disc while playing the game, two disc switches (without updates it ends with the swap disc, one switch).

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 _#33766 posted 2014-06-19 @ 04:18 GMT   
For Cobra's ISO tools to work you need to use PSJB format to begin with, that is the downloaded game like it was once released. (Different kinds of conversion might also work, but that's not how I tested it, so you are on your own then.)

For example:

Grand.Theft.Auto.V.PS3-DUPLEX

A bit off topic, but with the DUPLEX release for GTA5 initially, you need to move the 'EBOOT.BIN' file out of the release directory tree (or delete it) and rename the 'EBOOT.BIN.ORIG' file to 'EBOOT.BIN'. If you skip this step the game will fail. The 'EBOOT.BIN' files can be found in this directory:

BLES01807-[Grand Theft Auto V]/PS3_GAME/USRDIR


Here is a step-by-step explanation to make it easier, because many steps are involved and depending on each other.

Creating the SWAP disc using Cobra tools:

1) Download the Cobra ODE Bypass 4.55 tools, that pack includes an EBOOTS directory you need.

2) Create the swap ISO using genps3swapdisc.exe with the Cobra_ODE_Bypass_455_v1.2/bypass455_1.2/EBOOTS directory included in the file you downloaded from step 1). Make sure you select the correct IRD file for the original disk used (and it needs to be single layer @ 25GB).

NOTE: You can also use your own eboot files, extracted from your game collection with extractps3eboots.exe as explained in the Cobra Anti-ODE security bypass manual, but as long as the games you play are in the EBOOTS collection from Cobra with 5760 titles (linked in step 1), there is no need to.

3) Burn the SWAP.iso (or whatever you named it) on quality BD-R using ImgBurn. Don't use BD-RE (rewritable).


Creating game ISO for 4.55 using Cobra tools:

A) Create the ISO using genps3iso.exe (GenPS3iso v2.4) from the PSJB directory format of the game (as mentioned previously in this post with the GTA V example). You can choose to create it with IRD file or without, both will work in 3k3y when you have COBRAISO=Y set in 3key.cfg (that is already enabled in the 3key.cfg supplied with v2.10 beta).

B) Use genps3iso455.exe, select the game ISO created in step A) as input, select a name for the output ISO file, and then select the SWAP ISO file created in step 2).

C) Copy the 455 ISO to a game directory on the USB hard drive you use with 3k3y.

D) Play the game with swap disk from step 3).

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On 2014-06-19 @ 03:38 GMT, EAGLE-1 wrote:
sorry Robert but dont understand what do you mean,do you see the pictures,?? i test 4 consoles,all of of course 4k consoles with 4.55,i try everything as i write before,and happen,is just some bug or something i dont know,but in 4 consoles 2 mine 2 from customers after the game update any game works! but if i delete the update data the games works again !
about 3key.cfg, all like you write,i mean i dont change anything in 3key.cfg,just leave dafault,so i ask, do i need change anyting in the 3key.cfg??? i try 10 seconds swap time,but nothing work,i test 3 HDD,4 4k consoles,more than 20 games so far is the same result,just after update any game,they stop working,i really apreciate any help Robert,please look the pictures,thanks

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On 2014-06-19 @ 03:07 GMT, modrobert wrote:
First off, to make this clear, there are no changes in this update affecting PS3 consoles except when using 4.55 and swap disc. Unless you use the new 3key.cfg settings mentioned in the changelog for v2.10 beta.

[ This message was edited by modrobert on 2014-06-19 @ 03:29 GMT ]




That post was mainly for garyopa, you are not alone in this forum thread.
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I was asked to pass this message on, is there going to be any updates to the PATA (Phat) model of 3k3y as there was still one bad bug left in it from the days when TA still working on it, and he said he would fix up the error.

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<i***B> tell him its a bug with the remote on my PATA 3k3y. its very complicated to explain. but let me try ·
<i***B> if I plug the Remote in and boot up the PS3, nothing shows up on the remote ·
<i***B> BUT ·
<i***B> if I slowly insert the USB cable into the remote, it works ·
<i***B> sounds stupid I know, but TA could make sense out of it ·
<i***B> but he never told me what the problem was or how he wants to fix it ·
<i***B> but he could ·



Any thoughts on how or if or when this bug would be fixed for older PATA units.

Thanks.



This seems like a broken 3k3y USB dongle (the part in the PS3 USB slot that splits 3k3y FFC cable with the remote USB cable), or it could be the remote itself having a bad/loose USB connector (or other problem internally).

Is this the remote2 with three USB ports, or the old one with one USB port?

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 _#33770 posted 2014-06-19 @ 09:19 GMT   
Hi Robert,sorry i go to sleep for a couple hours,well i do all the swaps just as the remote ask,i mean i not miss any swap of course,i make all the steps just as the remote ask for each disc,now as i say before and this is very weird,before apply any update,after choose the game,remote ask for original disc,then i press x,screen goes black,remote ask for swap and game starts without problem,BUT after i make the update,i choose game in remote,but when i press x,the screen tv dont show black,show like the picture i post,the xmb menu but without anyting on it,just xmb blue screen (please look picture),then monitor ask for swap and after a few seconds ask for the ps3 disc again and then show the errror (please look seconds picture),AND even i open the ps3 cover i still can see the game in xmb menu! the console freeze and i cant turn off,i need unplug from the power cord!
now as i say i have 800 games,all then build with ird and with no modd files (all the isotools green message's) i never use a modd files game,sorry for my english robert,what i mean is all my 800 games show this message with iso tools " THE RESULTING ISO MATCH THE ORIGINAL AS CLOSE IS POSSIBLE"
but also i try to re-rebuild this isos with cobra tools following this steeps:
1-extract iso with isotools into jailbreak files
2-make the first iso with genps3iso
3-when first iso is made with genps3iso i make another iso with genps3iso455

so robert i so desperate,i already try 4 consoles as i say,2 mine 2 from customers and i get the exact same results!,now the last console i test even wont start any game even without any update,i just try 5 games in this console but just when i press x the ps3 freeze in the xmb menu !

another important thing,all my games works perfect in fat or slim consoles,and i call one customer than have cobra because i want to test the games in his ps3 and for my big surprise the games runs perfect!

i know i write a lot,sorry about that but i really need fix this problem

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On 2014-06-19 @ 04:07 GMT, modrobert wrote:
EAGLE-1,

I noticed something in your posts, maybe this will help you.

After game update is installed, one additional swap is required when playing the game (each time).

When playing the game after game update is installed, switch discs like this:

* PS3 disc (this is already in the drive normally)
* Swap disc
* PS3 disc

I think you missed the final switch to PS3 disc in your test, because this step is not needed when playing games without update.

Just look at the remote and do the final swap to PS3 disc and the game will load!


TL;DR

When game updates are installed, swap procedure end with the original PS3 game disc while playing the game, one more disc switch (without updates it ends with the swap disc, one less switch).

[ This message was edited by modrobert on 2014-06-19 @ 06:48 GMT ]



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 _#33771 posted 2014-06-19 @ 09:31 GMT   
As i say before robert, i make all the swap just like the remote ask for then, i mean i dont miss any swap,ans yes i notice without game update the works in this order:

WITHOUT GAME UPDATES:
1-choose game in remote,then press x,screen goes black,remote ask for ps3 disc,then remote ask for swap,game works

WITH GAME UPDATE:
1-choose game in remote,then press x,screen goes blue,(xmb screen),remote ask for swap (not all the times),then ask again for ps3 disc,then return main menu ps3 showing the error message,remote dont ask for more swap,if open ps3 cover,game still can see it in the ps3 menu,cant turn off console,need unplug power cable

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On 2014-06-19 @ 03:58 GMT, modrobert wrote:
EAGLE-1,

Regarding the game update problem; looks like you did a swap mistake, and that update file is still in XMB. Just delete the update file with XMB for that specific game and try again.

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On 2014-06-19 @ 09:19 GMT, EAGLE-1 wrote:
Hi Robert,sorry i go to sleep for a couple hours,well i do all the swaps just as the remote ask,i mean i not miss any swap of course,i make all the steps just as the remote ask for each disc,now as i say before and this is very weird,before apply any update,after choose the game,remote ask for original disc,then i press x,screen goes black,remote ask for swap and game starts without problem,BUT after i make the update,i choose game in remote,but when i press x,the screen tv dont show black,show like the picture i post,the xmb menu but without anyting on it,just xmb blue screen (please look picture),then monitor ask for swap and after a few seconds ask for the ps3 disc again and then show the errror (please look seconds picture),AND even i open the ps3 cover i still can see the game in xmb menu! the console freeze and i cant turn off,i need unplug from the power cord!
now as i say i have 800 games,all then build with ird and with no modd files (all the isotools green message's) i never use a modd files game,sorry for my english robert,what i mean is all my 800 games show this message with iso tools " THE RESULTING ISO MATCH THE ORIGINAL AS CLOSE IS POSSIBLE"
but also i try to re-rebuild this isos with cobra tools following this steeps:
1-extract iso with isotools into jailbreak files
2-make the first iso with genps3iso
3-when first iso is made with genps3iso i make another iso with genps3iso455

so robert i so desperate,i already try 4 consoles as i say,2 mine 2 from customers and i get the exact same results!,now the last console i test even wont start any game even without any update,i just try 5 games in this console but just when i press x the ps3 freeze in the xmb menu !

another important thing,all my games works perfect in fat or slim consoles,and i call one customer than have cobra because i want to test the games in his ps3 and for my big surprise the games runs perfect!

i know i write a lot,sorry about that but i really need fix this problem




All games I test here work fine with update, both with IRD file and without. GTAV installed nine updates total, and it works fine to play, same with MGS V ground zeroes after installing one update. I can't reproduce your problems, sorry.

Some things to try:

Power off the PS3 after game update install, before you try playing the games. If that fails, as I mentioned before, try deleting the game update in XMB, and install it again.

If the wrong disc is entered at some point during the game update installation, it will result in a corrupt game update, which will give the error on your attached images. There is one point during the update install where the drive motor will stop, when showing the XMB update progress/download meter, that time you should not swap disc. There is no message in the remote that time either, but it is easy to assume another swap is needed because motor stop during installation of update.
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 _#33773 posted 2014-06-19 @ 09:43 GMT   
Another thing to try, edit the SWAPTIMEOUT setting in 3key.cfg, set it to 10 seconds instead.
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 _#33774 posted 2014-06-19 @ 09:50 GMT   
well robert i just make the swaps only when remote ask for then not for motor stop,now i try using game "brazil 2014" for make the test because only install and small 54mb update,gta 5 install 9 updates and takes more time ( yesterday i spend all day and part night testing),anyway as i say i only make swaps when remote ask for then,never before never after,only when remote ask for them,now the only thing i dont test is make the first iso with genps3iso without ird file,this is the only test i still dont make but you say games works good wiith or without ird.now about the xmb freeze in blue screen after try to play a game with update?? like in my second picture,do you know what can be?? i mean without game update after press x,screen goes black,remote ask for swap game works,but after updates,screen goes blue,ask for swap,then ask for ps3 disc,then show the error ,now you say turn off ps3 after the update install right?? but just when the last update is installed remote ask for a swap again,so in what time you say i need turn off the console then? for avoid get a corrupt update?

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On 2014-06-19 @ 09:38 GMT, modrobert wrote:
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On 2014-06-19 @ 09:19 GMT, EAGLE-1 wrote:
Hi Robert,sorry i go to sleep for a couple hours,well i do all the swaps just as the remote ask,i mean i not miss any swap of course,i make all the steps just as the remote ask for each disc,now as i say before and this is very weird,before apply any update,after choose the game,remote ask for original disc,then i press x,screen goes black,remote ask for swap and game starts without problem,BUT after i make the update,i choose game in remote,but when i press x,the screen tv dont show black,show like the picture i post,the xmb menu but without anyting on it,just xmb blue screen (please look picture),then monitor ask for swap and after a few seconds ask for the ps3 disc again and then show the errror (please look seconds picture),AND even i open the ps3 cover i still can see the game in xmb menu! the console freeze and i cant turn off,i need unplug from the power cord!
now as i say i have 800 games,all then build with ird and with no modd files (all the isotools green message's) i never use a modd files game,sorry for my english robert,what i mean is all my 800 games show this message with iso tools " THE RESULTING ISO MATCH THE ORIGINAL AS CLOSE IS POSSIBLE"
but also i try to re-rebuild this isos with cobra tools following this steeps:
1-extract iso with isotools into jailbreak files
2-make the first iso with genps3iso
3-when first iso is made with genps3iso i make another iso with genps3iso455

so robert i so desperate,i already try 4 consoles as i say,2 mine 2 from customers and i get the exact same results!,now the last console i test even wont start any game even without any update,i just try 5 games in this console but just when i press x the ps3 freeze in the xmb menu !

another important thing,all my games works perfect in fat or slim consoles,and i call one customer than have cobra because i want to test the games in his ps3 and for my big surprise the games runs perfect!

i know i write a lot,sorry about that but i really need fix this problem




All games I test here work fine with update, both with IRD file and without. GTAV installed nine updates total, and it works fine to play, same with MGS V ground zeroes after installing one update. I can't reproduce your problems, sorry.

Some things to try:

Power off the PS3 after game update install, before you try playing the games. If that fails, as I mentioned before, try deleting the game update in XMB, and install it again.

If the wrong disc is entered at some point during the game update installation, it will result in a corrupt game update, which will give the error on your attached images. There is one point during the update install where the drive motor will stop, when showing the XMB update progress/download meter, that time you should not swap disc. There is no message in the remote that time either, but it is easy to assume another swap is needed because motor stop during installation of update.



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well robert i just make the swaps only when remote ask for then not for motor stop,now i try using game "brazil 2014" for make the test because only install and small 54mb update,gta 5 install 9 updates and takes more time ( yesterday i spend all day and part night testing),anyway as i say i only make swaps when remote ask for then,never before never after,only when remote ask for them,now the only thing i dont test is make the first iso with genps3iso without ird file,this is the only test i still dont make but you say games works good wiith or without ird.now about the xmb freeze in blue screen after try to play a game with update?? like in my second picture,do you know what can be?? i mean without game update after press x,screen goes black,remote ask for swap game works,but after updates,screen goes blue,ask for swap,then ask for ps3 disc,then show the error ,now you say turn off ps3 after the update install right?? but just when the last update is installed remote ask for a swap again,so in what time you say i need turn off the console then? for avoid get a corrupt update?
and yes i already try 10 seconds just like cobra and dont work,i will try to record a video,hope my wife can help me,that way you can see all the steps i made !

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On 2014-06-19 @ 09:19 GMT, EAGLE-1 wrote:
Hi Robert,sorry i go to sleep for a couple hours,well i do all the swaps just as the remote ask,i mean i not miss any swap of course,i make all the steps just as the remote ask for each disc,now as i say before and this is very weird,before apply any update,after choose the game,remote ask for original disc,then i press x,screen goes black,remote ask for swap and game starts without problem,BUT after i make the update,i choose game in remote,but when i press x,the screen tv dont show black,show like the picture i post,the xmb menu but without anyting on it,just xmb blue screen (please look picture),then monitor ask for swap and after a few seconds ask for the ps3 disc again and then show the errror (please look seconds picture),AND even i open the ps3 cover i still can see the game in xmb menu! the console freeze and i cant turn off,i need unplug from the power cord!
now as i say i have 800 games,all then build with ird and with no modd files (all the isotools green message's) i never use a modd files game,sorry for my english robert,what i mean is all my 800 games show this message with iso tools " THE RESULTING ISO MATCH THE ORIGINAL AS CLOSE IS POSSIBLE"
but also i try to re-rebuild this isos with cobra tools following this steeps:
1-extract iso with isotools into jailbreak files
2-make the first iso with genps3iso
3-when first iso is made with genps3iso i make another iso with genps3iso455

so robert i so desperate,i already try 4 consoles as i say,2 mine 2 from customers and i get the exact same results!,now the last console i test even wont start any game even without any update,i just try 5 games in this console but just when i press x the ps3 freeze in the xmb menu !

another important thing,all my games works perfect in fat or slim consoles,and i call one customer than have cobra because i want to test the games in his ps3 and for my big surprise the games runs perfect!

i know i write a lot,sorry about that but i really need fix this problem




All games I test here work fine with update, both with IRD file and without. GTAV installed nine updates total, and it works fine to play, same with MGS V ground zeroes after installing one update. I can't reproduce your problems, sorry.

Some things to try:

Power off the PS3 after game update install, before you try playing the games. If that fails, as I mentioned before, try deleting the game update in XMB, and install it again.

If the wrong disc is entered at some point during the game update installation, it will result in a corrupt game update, which will give the error on your attached images. There is one point during the update install where the drive motor will stop, when showing the XMB update progress/download meter, that time you should not swap disc. There is no message in the remote that time either, but it is easy to assume another swap is needed because motor stop during installation of update.




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 _#33776 posted 2014-06-19 @ 11:00 GMT   
EAGLE-1,

Like I mentioned previously, your photos look like there is a bad update installed from a failed swap, not sure. I don't know why you have to double or triple post each time, it will not get my attention faster.


Here are some funky photos with moiré pattern from the CRT (TV) in my lab. This was done with a PS3 Super Slim with OFW 4.55 and 3k3y firmware v2.10 beta installed


This is showing the update I installed in XMB using 3k3y swap method on my PS3 Super Slim with OFW 4.55.


Here is the game running after swapping two times leaving the original PS3 disc in the drive.
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 _#33777 posted 2014-06-19 @ 11:12 GMT   
sorry Robert,i just ask the previos answers you give me,sorry for bother you,well the only last option i have i make a video,then you can see all the steps i made,sorry for ask you again but as i say before i make all the swaps when the remote ask for then,never before,never after,also you say maybe a bad update? i make all the swap in the update process just as the remote say,i dont use the motor sound,also yes,in the updates we need make last swap with ps3 disc,after that i get the error message,
anyway again sorry about all the questions,i will try my wife help me making a video,thanks again for your support

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EAGLE-1,

Like I mentioned previously, your photos look like there is a bad update installed from a failed swap, not sure. I don't know why you have to double or triple post each time, it will not get my attention faster.


Here are some funky photos with moiré pattern from the CRT (TV) in my lab. This was done with a PS3 Super Slim with OFW 4.55 and 3k3y firmware v2.10 beta installed


This is showing the update I installed in XMB using 3k3y swap method on my PS3 Super Slim with OFW 4.55.


Here is the game running after swapping two times leaving the original PS3 disc in the drive.



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 _#33778 posted 2014-06-19 @ 11:20 GMT   
EAGLE-1, did you create the ISO the way I mentioned earlier? Or are the ones you test with converted 3k3y ISO files?
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 _#33779 posted 2014-06-19 @ 11:24 GMT   
Once when testing E3's new swap disc system I got the same error message when using a game ISO made with the E3 tools, where the game title is mentioned in some weird way like your screen photo. (The old E3 tools v2.0B works fine though.)
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 _#33780 posted 2014-06-19 @ 11:35 GMT   
Game updates works in my 3key with 2.10!

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 _#33781 posted 2014-06-19 @ 12:08 GMT   
i test 2 ways Robert

metod 1
1-i use the isotools games iso's with ird,then i make a new iso with genps3iso455

metod 2
1- i extract the isotools game with isotools extract to jailbreak files
2-after that i make a iso with ird file with genps3iso,then after build that iso i make a new iso with genps3iso455

so i try the 2 options,isotools iso and genps3iso iso,last thing i dont test yet is made the 4.55 iso without ird,but i very sure i dont get any difrence making a 4.55 without ird file

thanks again and i hope can make a video tonight fr you can see all the process

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EAGLE-1, did you create the ISO the way I mentioned earlier? Or are the ones you test with converted 3k3y ISO files?



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 _#33782 posted 2014-06-19 @ 12:31 GMT   
EAGLE-1, To rule out any problem with conversion, I need you to use a downloaded game when testing with the Cobra tools, at least until the new IsoTools version with swap support is ready. I don't need a video, it will not help in this case.
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 _#33783 posted 2014-06-19 @ 12:38 GMT   
so you mean,the isotools ird games iso's dont work?? even if i extract then to a jailbreak files?? and then make a brand new iso with cobra tools?? because many of the downloaded games have bad or modd files ( eboot.in,param.info, etc etc).,but i can just try download game just one for test,but hope this is not the case,i cant download 800 games again,so i need to ask,in non 2.10 firmware,you cant use bad iso's with mod files,isotools show a error and most games dont work that way,so in 2.10 we can use bad or modd games with bad or mod files then?? we dont need then 1:1 isotools ird games then??

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EAGLE-1, To rule out any problem with conversion, I need you to use a downloaded game when testing with the Cobra tools, at least until the new IsoTools version with swap support is ready. I don't need a video, it will not help in this case.



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 _#33784 posted 2014-06-19 @ 12:57 GMT   
No, I don't think the Cobra tools should or can handle 3k3y ISO files. The reason the Cobra support was added is so we have something to test with while waiting for IsoTools.
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 _#33785 posted 2014-06-19 @ 13:03 GMT   
I recently tested these games with game update installed:

Grand.Theft.Auto.V.PS3-DUPLEX
The.Lego.Movie.Videogame.PS3-DUPLEX
LEGO.Marvel.Super.Heroes.PS3-DUPLEX
Metal.Gear.Solid.V.Ground.Zeroes.PS3-DUPLEX

Just to check if I could find a game that fails, so far all works fine with game updates installed.

Also, some of these ISO files are created with IRD file, others without, they all work no matter what I try.
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 _#33786 posted 2014-06-19 @ 13:12 GMT   
ok robert,so you say cobra cant use isotools iso's right?? but i also try extract the isotools iso to a jailbreak files and then rebuild a new iso with both cobra tools,first with genps3iso and then re-rebuild with genps3iso455
anyway really thanks for take your time help me with all this mess,i know you too busy,i will test those games you say,and i will test all the possible combinations versions,isotools iso,download version,isotools jailbreak files,ird and without ird,etc etc,thanks again and sorry for all this mess

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On 2014-06-19 @ 13:03 GMT, modrobert wrote:
I recently tested these games with game update installed:

Grand.Theft.Auto.V.PS3-DUPLEX
The.Lego.Movie.Videogame.PS3-DUPLEX
LEGO.Marvel.Super.Heroes.PS3-DUPLEX
Metal.Gear.Solid.V.Ground.Zeroes.PS3-DUPLEX

Just to check if I could find a game that fails, so far all works fine with game updates installed.

Also, some of these ISO files are created with IRD file, others without, they all work no matter what I try.



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 _#33787 posted 2014-06-19 @ 13:13 GMT   
If you have one of the games I listed there, then try that one.
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 _#33788 posted 2014-06-19 @ 13:16 GMT   
No need to be sorry, just don't give up so easily...hehe
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 _#33789 posted 2014-06-19 @ 13:23 GMT   
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On 2014-06-19 @ 11:35 GMT, NightFall wrote:
Game updates works in my 3key with 2.10!



Thanks for testing.
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 _#33790 posted 2014-06-19 @ 13:47 GMT   
thanks Robert,i have all the games you post,but all then made with isotools and with ird file,so i will extract then to jailbreak files and then rebuild with cobra tools,first with genps3iso and then with genps3iso455,now i will try to making work one customer console,he only want's play call of duty ghost online,so i will start again from scratch with this console and with this game,later i post the results

thanks gain Robert

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No need to be sorry, just don't give up so easily...hehe



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 _#33794 posted 2014-06-19 @ 16:25 GMT   
For those who wonder how to delete a corrupt game update in XMB (PS3 OS) from a bad swap during the update procedure.

1) Select 'Game' in the menu using the controller.

2) Scroll down to 'Game Data Utility'.

3) Select the game where you want to delete the update.

4) Press triangle button on the controller for "Options".

5) Select 'Delete' and confirm.
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 _#33795 posted 2014-06-19 @ 18:05 GMT   
well Robert i still making more test and weird things happen,now i make the test in a customer console so here is the report until now

1-i test call of duty ghost and grand theft auto 5,i follow all the steps for make the iso 4.55 compatible,,i try gta 5 like 6 times and dont work,so i delete the install data and the only update i found,so i try again,now game start,and begin to install the game data like 8.5gb aprox,after that game ask for updates,9 of then,so remote ask for ps3 disc and start installing the updates,when last update finish,remote ask for swap and then show the error,so i turn off the console,try again,remote ask for ps3 disc,then for swap and then again ps3 disc and game start with the updates! (so far so good),so i turn off the console and try again and dont work,i get error again,for some reason the games not always work for me,i try 10 times and only 2 times game works,so now i so confused,why a working game with the updates work sometimes and sometimes dont??

2-test same process with call of duty ghost,in this case game start in the first try,so ask for updates,remote ask for ps3 disc and install a 420mb update,then ask for swap and then show error, ( please note after update remote never ask for ps3 like modrobert say,in my case ask for swap and show error),so like in gta 5 i turn off console,start again,remote ask in this order,first ps3 disc,then swap and last ps3,game works with the update!,(again so far so good) so i turn off console,try the same game again and dont work,so test like 8 times and 3 times work,so i really still dont understand,i mean games works like 2-3 times,but many times dont work !i make the swap's just in the right moment remote say,no before not after,so i cant figure out why games work just a few times after my test

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 _#33796 posted 2014-06-19 @ 19:01 GMT   
This could be the SWAPTIMEOUT being to high, because no matter how quick you swap discs, the counter will always wait until zero, which means XMB could give error...maybe because there are slight differences between consoles or BD drives. Try setting it to 10 seconds, instead of 16 seconds (which is set in 3key.cfg, or 15 seconds which is default without setting).
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 _#33797 posted 2014-06-19 @ 19:06 GMT   
Another possibility, the swap disc is bad, so the drive has problem reading it, works only sometimes. What brand of BD-R are you using? Also, at what speed did you burn it?
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 _#33798 posted 2014-06-19 @ 19:35 GMT   
I tried using IsoTools function "Tools -> ISO -> Extract ISO" on one of my old 3k3y ISO files, and then used that extracted PSJB directory with the Cobra tools, it worked fine in my tests, so should be OK to do that.
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 _#33799 posted 2014-06-19 @ 22:34 GMT   
well boss another day of full testing,i try default 16 seconds,and also i test to 10 seconds,i test 2 brands of blu ray,tdk and jvc,i dont have single layer verbatim for me verbatim the best brand in the world and i thing they can work better),only have 50gb dual layer verbatim,now here is my report with customer console,also i make a very weird video,sorry about that but is a little tricky with just one hand!
1-after remote ask for swap i wait maybe 6 seconds for make the swap,then remote ask for ps3 disc and work,in all my past test i make the swap just in exact moment remote say,only 2-3 times works,with this 6 seconds wait,the games works (with updates) maybe 80% of the times,sorry i forgot,u write to 2x speed!

now i will start testing again with one my consoles and and only work 2 times,so maybe we have a point about the blu ray brand,but right now i dont have verbatim for make the test,i will order some of tomorrow

here is the link of the video with the working console,maybe can help to the users understand how the remote works with swap

http://youtu.be/lp3d8KyaLr8

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I tried using IsoTools function "Tools -> ISO -> Extract ISO" on one of my old 3k3y ISO files, and then used that extracted PSJB directory with the Cobra tools, it worked fine in my tests, so should be OK to do that.



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 _#33801 posted 2014-06-20 @ 03:21 GMT   
EAGLE-1,

Thanks for helping out by testing this.

I like your one hand juggling of discs in the video, with the camera in the other hand, not easy to swap like that...hehe


About the SWAP disc, media type and burning.

The BD-R needs to be as close as possible to an original disc, because that is exactly what the PS3 drive need to believe. This swap trick is a "man in the middle" attack.

Most of the PS3 games are single layer (25GB), out of all games ever released, several thousand, I think there are only like 4 or 5 dual layer discs (MGS4 is one of them). This is one reason it is important to use single layer BD-R as swap disc, the other is that it should match the original PS3 game used.

What brands of BD-R to pick, here's a quote from Cobra's manual (PDF).

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The SWAP disc also has to be a single layer 25GB Blu-Ray disc (BD-R), double layer Blu-Ray discs WILL NOT WORK! Blu-Ray discs form companies like Verbatim, TDK and Sony work well.



The BD-R brand I used in my tests is single layer RITEK, and I read that is what E3 recommend for their ODE also.

When burning the BD-R, lower speed is better than high speed to make it easy for the PS3 drive to read. Try x2 or x4 burning speed, not higher.

As mentioned in the first post here, BD-RE (re-writable disc) failed in my tests. I understand that people really want to use that, since they can easily burn/update the same disc over and over, but the PS3 drive is picky, it doesn't like BD-RE, so don't use it!

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