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modrobert



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 _#35357 posted 2017-05-25 @ 00:29 GMT   
Looks like ralphup beat me to it regarding the news post.

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Some are calling it the 'Pandora' of the 3DS era! Back in the day, the original Sony PlayStation Portable (PSP) was basically cracked wide-open once the Pandora battery was found, and clever modders at the time discovered a way to convert normal PSP batteries into Pandora ones, now its the Classic O3DS turn!



Recently, SIGHAX and Boot9Strap was released, but @SciresM (one of those that outlined Signax at 33c3), has decided to recent a few clues on what the next exploit step can be done on the 3DS, and it so far only works on the older Classic O3DS models (before the updated Newer/Faster N3DS ones), basically it works by using a physical Magnet to trick the lid switch until thinking your 3DS is closed still, and then you press and hold a few buttons, and the 3DS boots-up into special factory mode bypassing all security checks/firmware and loads the special ARM code you have crafted from an older Nintendo DS Flash Cartridge like the AceKard or Super DSTwo.

* Fun test to do at home: O3DS/2DS normally can't boot when shell is closed (or slider/magnet are set). Start+Select+X+hold power bypasses
* Got confirmation that the DS cart + magnet stuff works on hardware on an otherwise unhacked console.
* The DS cart magnet stuff takes control of the system so early, btw, that it could even be used on a system with no SD card/bricked NAND.

This is of course just a 'teaser' and 'theory' on how it works, an actual public release has not been done, but it could be coming soon!

ORIGINAL NEWS SOURCE: --> https://twitter.com/SciresM/

NEWS SOURCE: Un nouvel exploit base d'un aimant uniquement sur OLD3DS (via) LogicSunrise



Source: http://www.maxconsole.com/threads/magnet-pwn-is-possible-on-older-classic-nintendo-3ds-handhelds.44686/

[ This message was edited by modrobert on 2017-05-25 @ 00:29 GMT ]
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garyopa



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 _#35358 posted 2017-05-25 @ 05:36 GMT   
Since I posted this news.

It seems the newer 3DS the faster N3DS also works with MagnetPWN but the button combo been changed to just Start+SEL.

Tests are underway with the original 2DS which has no 'lid' the new N2DSXL which does.
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\    \_\  \ / __ \_|  | \/ \___  | /    |    \  |    |    /    |    \  
 \______  /(____  /|__|    / ____| \_______  //\|____|  /\\____|__  //\
        \/      \/         \/              \/ \/        \/        \/ \/
                                                                       

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 _#35359 posted 2017-05-25 @ 06:29 GMT   
Good news! Weird if 2DS has a hall effect sensor, seems like wasted without lid.
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 _#35363 posted 2017-05-26 @ 07:00 GMT   
Seems Nintendo are on a big BANWAVE according to GBATemp...

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 _#35364 posted 2017-05-26 @ 07:26 GMT   
Yes, I'm surprised they waited this long. Perhaps a balance act between greed and bad PR?
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 _#35368 posted 2017-05-26 @ 12:43 GMT   
Haven't bothered to hack any newer generation stuff, apart from a couple of older XBOX 360's

all my 3DS PS3 PS4 XBOX ONE and PS VITA are factory due to the fact I have bought software for them via their online shop (mostly only games you cannot buy on physical media)

My concern is that once banned/blocked I would lose these genuine purchases. Cant see the point in having two units, one legit one hacked.

seems to me at some point in the near future, even Retro Gaming will be screwed, imagine booting up your PS3/4 in 10 years time, with no PSN server support as they will have long been shut down...

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 _#35369 posted 2017-05-26 @ 14:52 GMT   
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On 2017-05-26 @ 07:26 GMT, modrobert wrote:
Yes, I'm surprised they waited this long. Perhaps a balance act between greed and bad PR?



They want everyone to rush out and buy the New2DSXL handheld, after their current 3DS is banned.

Because if big 'N' was smart, the bootrom on N2DSXL should be different, preventing 'sighax' and other recent tricks from working, which will give them a 3DS finally free from working flashcarts for a few months or up to year or never, depending if Sky or GW invest in decapping the new model to figure out the bootrom changes.
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/   \  ___ \__  \ \_  __ \<   |  |  /   |   \   |     ___/ /  /_\  \   
\    \_\  \ / __ \_|  | \/ \___  | /    |    \  |    |    /    |    \  
 \______  /(____  /|__|    / ____| \_______  //\|____|  /\\____|__  //\
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 _#35370 posted 2017-05-26 @ 17:23 GMT   
I wonder if a similar approach woukd work, with the dsi XL. I have one lying around on 1.4.5 on it, with an R4 on the way.... id be willing to do some testing...

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 _#35395 posted 2017-05-31 @ 08:30 GMT   
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Just for the record, magnethax works on O3DS, 2DS ,and N3DS. Saw someone saying it was O3DS exclusive, it's not. N2DS TBD at release.



Source: https://twitter.com/SciresM/status/869829878098612224
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/______________l_______/       \______________\_______|      \_   /________/
 -+--Mo!-------------- \________/ ------------------- l_______/_____\ -----+-

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 _#35404 posted 2017-06-01 @ 16:17 GMT   
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3DS Unbricked with Magnet + DS Flashcard

This is not released yet. This is a PoC. No flashcards have been confirmed compatible.
DO NOT spread misinformation, saying that some cards will or won't work
There is no point buying flashcards right now for this, when your flashcard may be supported in the future!&#8203;
@Normmatt has created a way to unbrick via a DS Flashcard and a magnet! This will work on any 3DS on any firmware version. It will be released when the installers work properly and more flashcards are supported, to prevent lots of people from buying the same type of card. Reminder that this is not an NDS file which will work with any flashcard.

It will be released once more types of cards are supported + installers work well -- don't want to get everyone to buy a single expensive type of flashcart if it can be made to work on lots of them.

This works because of a flaw in the bootrom. Before the bootrom boots the NAND, it checks to see if Start+Select+X is held down, and if the shell is closed. If these requirements are met, it will boot, from the bootrom, an NDS cartridge. This give those cards bootrom access. You might be wondering how you'd hold down buttons while the shell is closed, and why you need a magnet. If you put a magnet in a specific spot on the 3DS, it will go into sleep mode. Using this, you can boot the NDS cartridge with the buttons held down while in sleep mode! Using a reflashable flashcard, you can flash, for example, B9S to the flashcard, and easily install it on your 3DS.

The 2DS doesn't need a magnet since a switch puts it to sleep instead of a magnet.


What does this mean?

Any 3DS model on any firmware can be hacked with minimal effort
You can unbrick any 3DS model from any type of brick.
- Remember, you don't need a NAND backup for this. Just do a CTRTransfer.
Even consoles with fried NAND, or even the NAND chip physically removed, can use this

This is incredibly impressive stuff, and will most likely be released soon!

FAQ:

Q: Can Nintendo patch this?
A: Nope! Not without a new hardware revision.

Q: My flashcard is blocked by my firmware! Can I still use this?
A: Yes! The flashcard blacklist is not enabled on the bootrom.

Q: So, can this work with any flashcard?
A: No, it is not an NDS file. The flashcard needs to be reflashable.

Q: What flashcards have been confirmed to work at this time?
A: None, as of now. However, we have proof that at least one works.

Q: But this flashcard is flashable, should I buy this?
A: No! They are working on making this compatible for more devices, please wait until it is released, your flashcard might be compatible!

Q: Will my 3DS flashcard work?
A: No, only NDS flashcards.

Q: When will the compatible flashcards be confirmed?
A: Most likely when it's released.

Q: I tried to do this with my cartridge and it didn't work?
A: It doesn't work with regular DS cards.

Q: When will it be released?
A: When it's ready. Don't pester the developers for it. It'll be ready when it's ready.

Q: Can I unbrick from a ____ brick?
A: Considering the card has access to the bootrom, most likely yes! This can potentially unbrick any brick, unless you've taken a knife to the motherboard.

Q: Can I install B9S on the latest firmware with this?
A: Again, since the card has access to the bootrom, you can potentially do this easily! Just plug in your flashcard, boot up using the magnet and button combination, and install.



Source: http://gbatemp.net/threads/3ds-unbricked-with-magnet-ds-flashcard.472585/

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRnXGqW8Nzs
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/______________l_______/       \______________\_______|      \_   /________/
 -+--Mo!-------------- \________/ ------------------- l_______/_____\ -----+-

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 _#35449 posted 2017-06-14 @ 17:49 GMT   
Its been confirmed that magnetpwn will work on new model of 3DS (The New 2DSXL) when it launches:

http://www.maxconsole.com/threads/confirmed-new-2ds-xl-will-work-with-magnetpwn.44814/

So all nintendo did was remove the '3D stuff', but didn't change the silicon, so the bootrom is the same.
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 /  _____/ _____  _______  ___.__. \_____  \   \______   \  /  _  \    
/   \  ___ \__  \ \_  __ \<   |  |  /   |   \   |     ___/ /  /_\  \   
\    \_\  \ / __ \_|  | \/ \___  | /    |    \  |    |    /    |    \  
 \______  /(____  /|__|    / ____| \_______  //\|____|  /\\____|__  //\
        \/      \/         \/              \/ \/        \/        \/ \/
                                                                       

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